This and that - 2
Entry mystery solved
THINK the Dabber' Nantwich website is great and full of so much information.
Please can you help me or know anybody that can?
In the 1901 census a place called Library Entry (numbers 1, 2 and
3) is shown between the Cocoa House and 29 Pillory Street. My relatives, Charles
and Alice Stockley, lived at number 2 and Mary A. Highfield at number 3. Where
is this place? What happened to it or is it still there?
I have been to Pillory Street and stood
at the Museum many a time trying to work it out! Could it have been the
library in which they lived or maybe there was somewhere behind / within the Cocoa
House Yard or maybe some houses that numbers / house names have changed in recent
I haven't yet looked into the 1911 census to see if it is listed on
there and I have
e-mailed the Records Office to see if they keep documents
regarding buildings. I also go to the Nantwich Family Historical Society and
they think that this place is a mystery too.
Any help will be greatly appreciated as I would really like to know
about the place and I am out of people / options to ask!
Amy Highfield, Crewe
Clearly, "A Dabber's Nantwich" website is the
first place to ask next time . . . ! Just joking. Mind you, all
I did was pass the question on to
local historian, Andrew Lamberton.
He replied: "I'm pretty sure that
you are referring to Heath's Entry which later came to be known as Wright's
Yard. If you go immediately past the library (now the Museum) you will see an archway on
the side of which is the front door to the hairdressing shop.
"I remember a cycle shop there in the
1970s and a Mr Smith repaired bicycles down the side of the shop, through the
entry. I'm sure that there were cottages down there at one time.
"I have copies of Johnson's Almanacs in
which Nos 4 and 5 are listed. There is no mention of them in the 1969 edition,
so I presume they were demolished by then. I can't see any evidence of cottages
on the other side of the library."
Andrew's prompt reply brought
response from Amy: "Thank you very much for your help. It is much
appreciated. It certainly answers my question and I might now be able to sleep
Another stroll down Memory Lane
I'VE just been looking at the
Snow Hill pictures
again... They look like something out of Dickens' books. When I showed my
granddaughter where I lived until I was eight her face was a total look of
disbelief, and looking at the pictures, I can see why.
We've had some good laughs when
looking at them and remembering where my life started. My nan and grandad lived
at No 4, then my mum and dad until we were offered a flat right at the top of
Queen's Drive - which seemed miles away after living on the Hill for eight
years. I remember the bonfires, the Coronation party in 1953 when we were given
a cup and spoon (I was five), the gunnel where the old lock up was (us kids used
to get told off for playing down there), Mellor's
Yard and Cartlake.
Happy times looking back, but not
so happy ones remembering the outside loo, the gas mantles and no central
heating, dolly tubs and me standing on a box turning the mangle handle for mum.
Thanks again for the pictures.
It's been nice going back down memory lane. Charles Dickens would be proud of
yer . . .!
Eileen Jones (nee Perlman), Telford, Shropshire.
A fabulous building
WE visited Nantwich at the weekend with friends and
were bowled over by the buildings and the floral displays. Just before heading
for home we came upon the fabulous building (right) where Clive Christian has their
shop. Do you know who built it and what it was originally used for? We'd love to
Caz and Tony B
original building on this site (left) was opened in 1859 by Philip Chesters as a
grocery shop and many people still know it as Chesters'. But
the "fabulous building" admired by Caz
and Tony was a replacement designed by local architects, Bower and Edleston.
Pillory Street, to the right of the main picture, was originally much narrower
and the rebuilding gave town planners the
chance to widen the road. The Pillory Street facade was originally
occupied by pubs. Boots the Chemists later occupied the building before Clive
Christian took over the premises.
See this page for more on the building.
Hotel across the lake
I ABSOLUTELY love the website! I live in Baddington.
Where? Exactly! No one but us folk who live here know about it. Perhaps we are
twinned with Brigadoon? I think we've been here for 1,000 years.
Can you help?
Could you do a piece on the hotel that was across the lake years ago? It was a
spa sort of affair, largish building which stood on the whole site where the
Hacienda was....all the way to Shrewbridge Road junction.
I'm a newcomer - only lived here
I'd love to see a photo
Su Beech, Baddington, Nantwich
I think Su could be correct about being twinned
with Brigadoon. Baddington isn't listed on any map I have and so perhaps it does
only appear every so often. But more about the hotel she asks about can be found
on Old Nantwich Pictures No 8 on this website.
Snow Hill houses
I REMEMBER Carringtons and the Zan (see
page), but I am wondering if Andrew
(Lamberton) or Paul (Simpson) have any old photos of the houses on Snow
Hill. Numbers 2, 4 and 6 had gardens (I lived at No.4 ) and the rest of the
houses were terraced.
Cecilia (and Malcolm) Tomlinson, Qualicum Beach,
Vancouver Island, Canada.
Andrew has come to the rescue with an aerial picture
of Snow Hill (right), taken from the Appendix in "Lost
Buildings Around Nantwich" - which shows additional pictures from Nantwich
You can't make out the details? See this page.
Both my homes have fallen to the 'dozers
Hi, Just came across your site and saw Dave Sealey
mentioning me and Strife. Hello Dave; good man.
My very best wishes to you and to all
my friends from Nantwich, wherever you may be (personally I'm in Ireland). And,
yes, the Hacienda is gone. I guess the new plans went in before the property
Both of my old Nantwich homes
have fallen to the 'dozers; first, the Golf House, that went during the late
Sixties (I think) and now the Hacienda. It was a great place to grow up in but
all things must pass. (One of my favourite poems is Shelley's Ozymandius
- read it and you'll get the picture).
Yes, Strife did annoy the neighbours. I
still have some hearing damage myself! My Dad was a great defender of the band:
One time a neighbour rang up to complain about the noise; my Dad said, "You're
lucky. I have to live with it!" He never asked us to quit.
I remember him working out that the Government could afford to pay
everyone who lived in the country a basic living, 'universal benefit', so that
there would be no
stigma and no real poverty; less anxiety. Then,
everyone would be encouraged to continue to work and pay taxes to make the whole
thing work. He said he was inspired to figure it out by the idea behind "the
Beam Heath", Dabber's money. Only last week, someone told me that a couple of
economists had come up with a similar "universal benefit" idea in the 1980s and
had shown it could work!
By the way, I checked out the
page. The house was built in 1961. We moved there in 1962, from across the
fields at the Golf House. My Mother is a wonderful woman called May and my
father was Walter Ellson, the corn merchant, but the main family business was as
pet requisite manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers.
I can give you more info on the house -
or, rather, my Mother should be an even better source!
Paul Ellson, Ireland
Nice to hear from you, Paul. It would be great to
have some of your mother's recollections. Also, see the
Shame about The Hacienda
from Nantwich about The Hacienda really brought
back some memories.
to school with Paul Ellson and consequently spent some time at The Hacienda.
I have vivid memories of the numerous practice sessions of Paulís group,
eventually known as Strife, taking place in the upstairs room with the
balcony. They must have driven the neighbours batty. They later released a
great LP and I remember watching them perform at what used to be Blutoís.
Great memories. Shame The Hacienda has been demolished, but I suppose
( Also see the item above)
they need to build
more houses like the ones on the old football field. We visited Jackson
Avenue during our recent trip, and we were not impressed with the "houses"
they are building.
I took the wife from Willaston round the "new" ring roads through Welshman's
Lane to Malbank. When we stopped by the new road she had no idea where we
were. The new football ground looks good by the way. Pity about the pitch
Dave Sealey, Johannesburg
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