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Can't recall the Red Lion
IT'S been a while since we were in contact.
Since then we have moved to Vancouver Island, to a place called Qualicum
Beach. It's like living in paradise, only a 10-minute drive to the beach
and the Pacific Ocean.
The last time I wrote to you I said
that we check your website every
day and we still do and that is one reason I am writing again.
I read about all the coffee shops
and that there used to be 39 pubs in Nantwich, but for the life of me I
can't remember the Red Lion at the junction of Swine Market and Oat Market.
I do remember a garage at the
corner of Beam Street and Wall Lane (I think it was Mottrams) because from
our backyard on Snow Hill we could see the garage.
Maybe you could put me in the picture
where the pub was. Thanks a lot, and we still think your website is
Cecilia (and Malcolm) Tomlinson, Qualicum Beach,
Vancouver Island, Canada.
Red Lion (pictured) was one of a number of pubs with that name in Nantwich -
not all at the same time, of course, and not to be confused with the present
one in The Barony near to Beam Bridge.
It was at the Beam Street end of a number of
buildings standing between Oat Market and Swine Market. There is now a
pavement, with flower beds, forming an island where the buildings stood.
Clearly the two roads were much narrower than they are now.
The picture is
taken from Beam Street with Oat Market the narrow road to the left and
buildings in Swine Market visible in the distance (right). The picture was
published in Lost Houses of Nantwich by Andrew
Lamberton and the late Robin Gray, in which it is said the pub had four front doors
and no back door.
UPDATES: Andrew tells me (and the fact is in
"Lost Houses") that this Red Lion was demolished in 1959. The
building had closed in 1950 when the licence was transferred to the public
house on The Barony.
In turn, that one has been
demolished to become a care home (2018). See here
Website brings back memories
I JUST came across your website. It is great and
brings back so many memories.
I am not a true Dabber,
arriving in Nantwich I think about 1938 at the age of seven when my father
took over Carrington's news agency on the corner of High Street and Oat
Market (since demolished). I went to school in Nantwich before my family
purchased a second news agency and moved to Wistaston, opposite Grocott's
From the school at Wistaston, I won
a scholarship to Nantwich and Acton Grammar School (now Malbank). I
played truant with most of the Sixth Form to watch the 1948 Cricket Test
Match versus Australia (The Invincibles) at Old Trafford. I still have a
couple of old school photos - 1946 and 1948.
I have fond memories of the
smell of roasting coffee from Stennett and Afford's in High Street, opposite
Chetwinds, and of Tom Maybury trying to make a bowler out of me.
My family sold up (the house was bought
by the Bull family) and emigrated to Australia in late 1948. I returned for
a visit 50 years later, on May 9, 1998. I stayed with my cousin Bob and
Nancy Bailey in Wrenbury and did a Rotary make up at The Crown with Derek
Grocott, who put me in contact with some old school and boyhood friends. I
was able to show my two adult children where I went to school. A great time.
I am planning to return briefly in
September this year and hope to renew contacts.
All the best and well done.
Alan White, Buderim, Queensland, Australia.
Thanks, Alan. Your reference to Chetwind's in High Street puzzled me.
I am sure you were thinking of Worsey's (or
was it Chetwind's previously?) which was a baker's shop with a cafe behind
it (No 9). That was next door to Carrington's (No 11). Perhaps you were
getting mixed up with Chatwins who are still on The Square (part of High
Street). As you will imagine, things have changed greatly since then. You
might be surprised when you see the area in September.
I'm even more homesick now
HAVING moved to a village north of Brampton in
Cumbria four years ago, I recently discovered your site and it has made me
even more homesick for Nantwich than I was before!!!
It is lovely to see the
images of the town where I grew up and lived until my early 30s. Up here
the place is dull, the local market town of Brampton does not even have a
gift shop, nice cafe or decent clothes shop and Carlisle, the nearest proper
town, is 20 miles away.
As you can see, I miss Nantwich so much. The
people are so friendly compared
to up here where nobody wants to know you unless
you are three generations of family. So THANKS so much for your site. It is
lovely to see the old place and I hope to return one day.
Charlotte Stewart, Cumbria.
l I'm glad to keep you in touch, Charlotte. Keep
visiting the website. Is there anything in particular that you would like to
see a picture of . . .?
See this page of
pictures that Charlotte liked | See also Things you Say.
So many changes
I ENJOY reading your
web site. It brings back lots of memories, and keeps me up to date with
developments in and around Nantwich.
Nantwich in 1983 to move to Johannesburg. Well, strictly speaking, we were
living in Haslington at the time, but I still consider myself a Dabber.
We have visited a few times since then, and my last visit was in
have been so many changes since our previous visit in 2001, particularly
around the old ‘NAGS’ and around the Stapeley area.
Having lived in
Jackson Avenue for many years whilst growing up, it is really the end of
an era to see the football ground moving. As a real youngster we used to
play on the pitch before it was upgraded, then later I used to play
Salvador (NAGS Old
Boys team). We could also see most of the pitch from our spare bedroom
planning a visit next June/July time. Hope for a drier summer than this
year. I still keep in touch with my old cricketing mates, and follow the
exploits of the rugby club.
Keep up the good work.
lNAGS: Nantwich and
Acton Grammar School - now Malbank School - in Welsh Row,
Nantwich. Both Welsh Row and Stapeley have seen new housing developments
in recent times.
Any photos of band?
I AM the fellow who originated from Birchin Lane (see letter
on Things you Say). In the early Sixties I had a band called
Vince Storm and the Tempests and our first professional gig was at The Civic
Hall where we were the supporting group to Emile Ford and the Checkmates. We
played several more times at The Civic but unfortunately I have absolutely
no record of those times and wondered if any of your local readers might
have photos taken at that time.
If my memory serves me we
did have quite an effect on the young ladies of the
area since there were not many "groups"
performing there at that time.
I continue to monitor your site and it is very nostalgic for me so
keep up the good work.
Roger L. Moors, President and
Chief Executive Officer (for a properties trust in Canada).
lIf anyone has memories and/or photographs
of Vince Storm and the Tempests contact A Dabber's Nantwich and I'll
forward them to Roger.
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