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Can't recall the Red Lion

IT'S been a while since we were in contact. Since then we have moved to Vancouver Island, to a place called Qualicum Beach. It's like living in paradise, only a 10-minute drive to the beach and the Pacific Ocean.

   The last time I wrote to you I said that we check your website every day and we still do and that is one reason I am writing again.

   I read about all the coffee shops and that there used to be 39 pubs in Nantwich, but for the life of me I can't remember the Red Lion at the junction of Swine Market and Oat Market.

   I do remember a garage at the corner of Beam Street and Wall Lane (I think it was Mottrams) because from our backyard on Snow Hill we could see the garage.

  Maybe you could put me in the picture where the pub was. Thanks a lot, and we still think your website is AWESOME.

Cecilia (and Malcolm) Tomlinson, Qualicum Beach,

Vancouver Island, Canada.                                                         OCTOBER 2008 

 

lThe Red Lion (pictured) was one of a number of pubs with that name in Nantwich - not all at the same time, of course, and not to be confused with the present one in The Barony near to Beam Bridge.

 

   It was at the Beam Street end of a number of buildings standing between Oat Market and Swine Market. There is now a pavement, with flower beds, forming an island where the buildings stood. Clearly the two roads were much narrower than they are now.

   The picture is taken from Beam Street with Oat Market the narrow road to the left and buildings in Swine Market visible in the distance (right). The picture was published in Lost Houses of Nantwich by Andrew Lamberton and the late Robin Gray, in which it is said the pub had four front doors and no back door. 

   UPDATES: Andrew tells me (and the fact is in "Lost Houses") that this Red Lion was demolished in 1959. The building had closed in 1950 when the licence was transferred to the public house on The Barony.

   In turn, that one has been demolished to become a care home (2018). See here


Website brings back memories

I JUST came across your website. It is great and brings back so many memories.

    I am not a true Dabber, arriving in Nantwich I think about 1938 at the age of seven when my father took over Carrington's news agency on the corner of High Street and Oat Market (since demolished). I went to school in Nantwich before my family purchased a second news agency and moved to Wistaston, opposite Grocott's cafe.

   From the school at Wistaston, I won a scholarship to Nantwich and Acton Grammar School (now Malbank). I played truant with most of the Sixth Form to watch the 1948 Cricket Test Match versus Australia (The Invincibles) at Old Trafford. I still have a couple of old school photos - 1946 and 1948.

   I have fond memories of the smell of roasting coffee from Stennett and Afford's in High Street, opposite Chetwinds, and of Tom Maybury trying to make a bowler out of me.

 

  My family sold up (the house was bought by the Bull family) and emigrated to Australia in late 1948. I returned for a visit 50 years later, on May 9, 1998. I stayed with my cousin Bob and Nancy Bailey in Wrenbury and did a Rotary make up at The Crown with Derek Grocott, who put me in contact with some old school and boyhood friends. I was able to show my two adult children where I went to school. A great time.

   I am planning to return briefly in September this year and hope to renew contacts.

   All the best and well done.

Alan White, Buderim, Queensland, Australia.                                                      04/2008

 

l Thanks, Alan. Your reference to Chetwind's in High Street puzzled me. I am sure you were thinking of Worsey's (or was it Chetwind's previously?) which was a baker's shop with a cafe behind it (No 9). That was next door to Carrington's (No 11). Perhaps you were getting mixed up with Chatwins who are still on The Square (part of High Street). As you will imagine, things have changed greatly since then. You might be surprised when you see the area in September.


I'm even more homesick now

HAVING moved to a village north of Brampton in Cumbria four years ago, I recently discovered your site and it has made me even more homesick for Nantwich than I was before!!!

    It is lovely to see the images of the town where I grew up and lived until my early 30s.  Up here the place is dull, the local market town of Brampton does not even have a gift shop, nice cafe or decent clothes shop and Carlisle, the nearest proper town, is 20 miles away.

    As you can see, I miss Nantwich so much. The people are so friendly compared

 

 

 

to up here where nobody wants to know you unless you are three generations of family. So THANKS so much for your site. It is lovely to see the old place and I hope to return one day.

Charlotte Stewart, Cumbria.                                                                          2008

 

l I'm glad to keep you in touch, Charlotte. Keep visiting the website. Is there anything in particular that you would like to see a picture of . . .? (See also Things you Say).


So many changes

I ENJOY reading your web site. It brings back lots of memories, and keeps me up to date with developments in and around Nantwich.

   We left Nantwich in 1983 to move to Johannesburg. Well, strictly speaking, we were living in Haslington at the time, but I still consider myself a Dabber. We have visited a few times since then, and my last visit was in January 2007.

   There have been so many changes since our previous visit in 2001, particularly around the old ‘NAGS’  and around the Stapeley area.

   Having lived in Jackson Avenue for many years whilst growing up, it is really the end of an era to see the football ground moving. As a real youngster we used to play on the pitch before it was upgraded, then later I used to play there with

Salvador (NAGS Old Boys team). We could also see most of the pitch from our spare bedroom window!

   We are planning a visit next June/July time. Hope for a drier summer than this year. I still keep in touch with my old cricketing mates, and follow the exploits of the rugby club.

Keep up the good work.

David Sealey, Johannesburg                                                                                            2008

 

lNAGS: Nantwich and Acton Grammar School - now Malbank School - in Welsh Row, Nantwich. Both Welsh Row and Stapeley have seen new housing developments in recent times.


Any photos of band?

I AM the fellow who originated from Birchin Lane (see letter on Things you Say). In the early Sixties I had a band called Vince Storm and the Tempests and our first professional gig was at The Civic Hall where we were the supporting group to Emile Ford and the Checkmates. We played several more times at The Civic but unfortunately I have absolutely no record of those times and wondered if any of your local readers might have photos taken at that time.

   If my memory serves me we did have quite an effect on the young ladies of the

 

 

 

area since there were not many "groups" performing there at that time.
   I continue to monitor your site and it is very nostalgic for me so keep up the good work.
Roger L. Moors, President and Chief Executive Officer (for a properties trust in Canada).
                                                                                                 2008

 

lIf anyone has memories and/or photographs of Vince Storm and the Tempests contact A Dabber's Nantwich and I'll forward them to Roger.

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